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    Crossfire? Not many heated debates here...

    I have not seen many heated debates in Crossfire. The only one I have seen that is blowing smoke is the one titled, "Homosexuality?"

    Are people too afraid to get banned to talk about politics or religion which seem to get everyone's panties in a bunch, but if you read some of the rules and logic fallacies provided by this beautiful forum you will see that if we speak intelligently and keep an open mind or heart both sides can walk out with a better knowledge of their counterparts.

    I understand that everyone loves their little polls about which program is awesome and which is a pile of steaming fecal matter, but we should up the ante and talk about today's problems, modern religion (simple questions that philosophers always argue, "Is religion good or bad?" and give our two cents on the matter.

    BTW, the Homosexuality post is a bit one sided with a couple of people coming in and simply stating, "Homosexuality is bad, Bad=Satan." Groundless arguments don't make good "Crossfire" :dunno:
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    Re: Crossfire? Not many heated debates here...

    You got a very good point of view....I really appreciate that.

    But why do you think people will get banned for posting about religion.
    I think this is a good idea to start a poll of religions. and see the number of people using x10hosting from different religions
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    Re: Crossfire? Not many heated debates here...

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss is the Best View Post
    You got a very good point of view....I really appreciate that.

    But why do you think people will get banned for posting about religion.
    I think this is a good idea to start a poll of religions. and see the number of people using x10hosting from different religions
    LOL, I have been banned or suspended in many forums for talking about politics or religion. I do not flame or rant. I try to give them sources for my arguments but sometimes a bias mod or an angry "left or right" winger spam reports someone for their opinion.

    I would love to talk and discuss many different things. I enjoy talking about many of today's news and break it down sociologically, psychologically, sometimes even see how religion and politics plays a role on a matter at hand. If one could start a post about, example, Why Democrats are right? or Which Religion is the true path? Then you would really up the ante in the crossfire. Maybe even bring more people to this forum with more opinion on this. I bet the Google Bot lurks around here often.
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    Re: Crossfire? Not many heated debates here...

    I think there lots of reasons people avoid controversial topics here. (Two cents yall):

    1. Multi-national forum. Hard to talk about American politics when there's so many foreigners. Easier to talk about more global issues and ideas than local ones. (Hence why the homosexuality topic was so popular: the idea transcends USA and many cultures have an opinion about it.)

    2. Obviously, people are here because they want to host their site. Since the forum is tied to the hosting, it makes sense that people would be cautious about what they say and do here. What if a mod gets pissed and deletes your website? (Not that I think the mods here would, but it's a legitimate concern.)

    3. Relatively low population. You can start a topic all you like, but how many people will respond? How much fun is that? (That is, active members. Most people log into the forum because they have to once a month. There's no requirement to post.)

    4. Population dynamics. This ain't no Harry Potter fan-fic forum; it's a web-hosting forum. OF COURSE there's going to be a lot of techno-phile stuff. There's lots of nerd types (no offense yall, I iz der nerd type too, a lesser form though) and philosophy/religion/politics is (for that particular population, in general) not nearly as fun and exciting as Windows vs. Mac vs. Linux.

    This is all just theory though, mind you.

    Edit: You missed the big Evolution vs. Cration (sic) debate. Might be worth necromancing.
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    Re: Crossfire? Not many heated debates here...

    You forgot the average age of forum members here. That might have to do something with it ;)

    As for me I like do discuss things in person. I don't like forums (except for this one, of course ). I only visit two of them (including this one) and another one is a forum of my favorite computer related magazine.

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    Re: Crossfire? Not many heated debates here...

    Quote Originally Posted by fractalfeline View Post
    1. Multi-national forum. Hard to talk about American politics when there's so many foreigners. Easier to talk about more global issues and ideas than local ones. (Hence why the homosexuality topic was so popular: the idea transcends USA and many cultures have an opinion about it.)
    I understand there are a lot of different nationalities, and cultures but I was simly stating an example. Something to add to me argument so people can understand what I am talking about. ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by fractalfeline View Post
    2. Obviously, people are here because they want to host their site. Since the forum is tied to the hosting, it makes sense that people would be cautious about what they say and do here.
    This has happened to me before in another free web host that was tied with a forum. It was the same make up as this forum but I might of said something that offended a mod and suspended my account for 90 days. This crossfire forum seems to be for just that, ideas that may piss off people.

    Quote Originally Posted by fractalfeline View Post
    4. Population dynamics. This ain't no Harry Potter fan-fic forum; it's a
    web-hosting forum. OF COURSE there's going to be a lot of techno-phile stuff. There's lots of nerd types (no offense yall, I iz der nerd type too, a lesser form though) and philosophy/religion/politics is (for that particular population, in general) not nearly as fun and exciting as Windows vs. Mac vs. Linux.
    LOL, I can agree with this, I too enjoy a little Mac Cultist Bashing, or "Im der PC" Windows fan arguing. I also enjoy talking about things that can never be truly answered but is nice to ponder around.

    Quote Originally Posted by leviathon View Post
    As for me I like do discuss things in person. I don't like forums
    I enjoy spewing arguments in forums. I am subscribed to 5 forums. Each of them containing different content.
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    Re: Crossfire? Not many heated debates here...

    Good for you then but I don't like to discuss things when I can't see your face expression and hear your tone. Call me old-fashion but I like face to face discussions more.

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    Re: Crossfire? Not many heated debates here...

    Quote Originally Posted by leviathon View Post
    Good for you then but I don't like to discuss things when I can't see your face expression and hear your tone. Call me old-fashion but I like face to face discussions more.
    LOL you and me both my friend, which is why I give my "opponents" and readers the luxury of smilies. I always put smilies at the end of an argument to see what my facial expression is remotely about. This is my expression as of now.

    When people make groundless arguments or other arguments that are seen as logic fallacies I usually add any of these smilies.

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    Re: Crossfire? Not many heated debates here...

    Many times people misunderstood smilies in my posts so I had to explain them. That's one of the reasons I don't like to discuss on the forums.

    To be completely honest, I don't have time for serious discussions on forums.

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    Re: Crossfire? Not many heated debates here...

    Quote Originally Posted by leviathon View Post
    Many times people misunderstood smilies in my posts so I had to explain them. That's one of the reasons I don't like to discuss on the forums.

    To be completely honest, I don't have time for serious discussions on forums.
    I can understand that, some people have more important things to attend to. Well I don't really have much to do. I am a full time student, so I basically go home and study for 2 - 4 hours a week and the rest is for studying programming. I do try to look for work, but this countries economy is still not great.
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