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    Question CO.CC was blocked in Google. Was it a right move?

    I know some of you have heard that co.cc subdomains have been blocked by Google a few weeks ago. That would mean that nobody here who have set their domains to co.cc won't appear in Google search results. They said that it was to prevent abuse.

    So do you think this move was the right thing to do, or was Google just taking the lazy approach?
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    Re: CO.CC was blocked in Google. Was it a right move?

    I think Google should have at least given users an option to appeal the removal and have their individual domain re-listed.

    Also, Google already scans sites for malicious content and provides a warning on search results if they detect malware on the site, so removing everything might have been a bit extreme.

    Maybe they were trying to send a message to co.cc telling them to better monitor their service, although since its free, abuse is inevitable. I find this unfair to users who were using the service legitimately.

    If co.cc doesn't manage to get back onto Google, it could potentially ruin the company. According to their Facebook page, they are currently contacting Google about this issue and hope to get it resolved soon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Co.cc Facebook Page Comments
    We were in contacted with Google and are discussing as to the de-indexing.

    We check all domains providing all domain lists and zone files to Trendmicro, Symantec and Spamhaus. And also, we get malicious domains information everyday from Kaspersky, RSA Security and Phishtank to block out those domains.
    Therefore, we believe that the ratio of existing live malicious domains is not over 0.01% for sure.

    I think Googls is also concerning this point.
    I sincerely request you to inform Google those points and to re-index again into your domain. I would very much appreciate if you could help us to request Google.

    Thank you.
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    Brian Yang - TechAirlines


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    Re: CO.CC was blocked in Google. Was it a right move?

    i think google should've just placed a warning page, like they used to for malware sites, instead of removing them all completely. but on the other side, spammers have been dramatically decreased.
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    Re: CO.CC was blocked in Google. Was it a right move?

    It's not just overtly malicious sites (drive-by malware downloads, phishing, and so forth); Google also has to deal with "splogs" that scrape content from the original sites and point to one another in a complex spiderweb of cross-links. That is co.cc's business model: bulk subdomain sales. I mean, it's nice they let you have a couple of subdomains for free (even though they likely know that there's a high abuse potential), but they have to know that when they're selling as many as 15,000 subdomains to a single user as a package that there's likely some black-hat SEO involved.

    Google's actions here probably have at least as much to do with the "block domain" option returns from their search results* as they do with reports of malicious behaviour. Co.cc might be able to claim vigilance over illegal activities, but Google is in the business of providing good search results and hanging ads off of them; when the search results aren't good, people go elsewhere, and the ads don't get seen or clicked.

    And yeah, it's a pity that a handful of well-behaved people are negatively affected. But let's remember that it is only a relatively small group of folks, and that if search results really are important to them, it's a fixable problem.

    * I don't know if that's available from all browsers, but it's definitely something I've used in Chrome to get rid of content-free teaser sites more than a few times. Killing about two dozen annoyance domains has dramatically increased the quality of my returns.
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    Re: CO.CC was blocked in Google. Was it a right move?

    Going based purely off my own opinion, I'd have to say yes. Now mind you this is not something i just came to a conclusion on. CO.CC Started off as a pretty good way to get a decent domain (for those who really can't afford the 10$/year) I know this as I myself used it for a while when I was younger and did not have a well paying job. It kicked off my ambition for creating and designing websites, and as much as I dont really like the fact that google blacklisted co.cc domains still... well, makes sense.

    Now let me say that this was probably done due to the massive amount of people who dont want to pay for domains to use them for scams, or put ads on them to make money and thats it. Im going to guarantee that 80% of the co.cc websites were used inappropriately for things such as phising and various othes.. It hinders the innocent community but benefits the entire body of people as a whole, it helps people who are using google as their search engine to get closer to their answer in which they are searching for to begin with.

    Google has its reasons, and we have ours - ultimately I think it was the right way to go to protect distributed information and the people accessing it. Its a self defense and reputation thing for Google.

    Well thats just my two cents, and I could very well be wrong

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    I'm going to argue the other side of the coin - it's yet another example of an over protective nanny state.

    I do not think it is Google's role to block results from scammers completely. It's a half hearted response to what I'm guessing was pressure due to the prominence of crappy results at the top of searches, due to people's understanding and exploitation of the way the algorithm works.

    What if I was investigating some scam that involved some .co.cc site?

    Or if I was in to (or wanted to get involved in) some minority sport or activity with members hosting sites on .tk and .co.cc sites?

    Google would be useless to me in the one area it should excel. A blanket ban is just an over-protective cop-out.
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    Re: CO.CC was blocked in Google. Was it a right move?

    ... except that Google isn't the state, it's a business looking after its own business interests, and co.cc's business model runs at right angles to Google's interests. Google isn't protecting us, they're protecting themselves. Why should they spend time and money sorting the fly poop from the pepper (or, more likely, the pepper from the fly poop -- whitelisting would probably work a lot better than blacklisting)? Again, malicious free subdomains are only the tip of the iceburg; there's a lot more to the story than phishing/malware sites that only stay up long enough to do what they were designed to do.
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    Re: CO.CC was blocked in Google. Was it a right move?

    esselar you are right if google is protecting its interest but don't forget that google has adverts with some co.cc websites. Is co.cc the only free domain? what about dot.tk. Is the fact that co.cc means its fraudulent, it will be interesting to note that even fraud stars know that free domains are not trusted.Moreover the paid domain name are becoming cheaper.
    those of us who use co.cc will still use other websites to list our content to google.

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    Re: CO.CC was blocked in Google. Was it a right move?

    well, i believe that domain names are not the one to be blocked, but the IP of the servers from which the fraudulent and abusive sites came from. A fraudulent website can have many domain names, so blocking the domain name doesn't mean shutting down the house entirely, but just closing only one of the windows.
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    Angry Re: CO.CC was blocked in Google. Was it a right move?

    I believe that Google has emboldened a lot of takes over, banned Adsense on my site, without any reason, the account was $ 130. Another site with a domain co.cc stopped working.

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