Abortion

[leafypiggy]

Yes, it needs to be discussed.

It is wrong. Very wrong. Discuss Please.

I got this email this morning:

A worried woman went to her gynecologist and said:

'Doctor, I have a serious problem and desperately need your help! My baby is
not even 1 yr. old and I'm pregnant again. I don't want kids so close together.'

So the doctor said: 'Ok and what do you want me to do?'

She said: 'I want you to end my pregnancy, and I'm counting on your help with this.'

The doctor thought for a little, and after some silence he said to the lady: 'I think I have a better solution for your problem. It's less dangerous for you too.'

She smiled, thinking that the doctor was going to accept her request.

Then he continued: 'You see, in order for you not to have to take care of 2 babies at the same time, let's kill the one in your arms. This way, you could rest some before the other one is born. If we're going to kill one of them, it doesn't matter which one it is. There would be no risk for your body if you chose the one in your arms.

The lady was horrified and said: 'No doctor! How terrible! It's a crime to kill a child!

'I agree', the doctor replied. 'But you seemed to be ok with it, so I thought maybe that was the best solution.

The doctor smiled, realizing that he had made his point.

He convinced the mom that there is no difference in killing a child that's already been born and one that's still in the womb. The crime is the same!

If you agree, please forward. Together we can help save precious lives!

[Smith6612]

I'm normally very shy to responding to these types of discussions, but I'll take a shot at this one. I personally feel as though Abortion itself is bad. Sure, natural abortion is fine, no one can control that but if people just create childs, find out they can't take care of them and don't want them, first of all, why are they even bringing a child to life in the first place, or why aren't they giving them to someone who would want them? I find abortion wrong, but yet again if someone is that cruel, there's no stopping them truthfully.

[Twinkie]

This is also on my list of things not to talk about, but then how would the world get any better? I completely agree with the doctor but there is validity to both sides of the argument. Killing an unborn baby after it becomes a fetus or after the third trimester is murder. By then, the baby has all it's organs in place and it is a human being who can move and feel, but before that it is just a ball of cells just starting to specialize. The mother should be able to choose to have an abortion before the baby is formed if the mother cannot support the child or if conception was an accident. No use fidgeting over the technicalities if the baby is going to be born into neglect or poverty because the parent is not ready/does not want a child. I agree with abortion with the restriction of when it can be preformed, as stated above only I'm only weighing the child's best interests in the present and future. This being said from an under aged male democrat, knowing my mom and many other women who share my belief. I forwarded this to all my contacts. This thread could really use a poll...

*Pained*

[Spartan Erik]

Well you can argue whether its good or bad all day, but regardless people are going to have it done anyway.

If someone wants to get an abortion, they will find any means necessary to get one. If abortion was illegal, that person would go through any means necessary, no matter how unsafe or unsanitary in order to get that abortion.

[Twinkie]

I doubt it. Would a person potentially kill himself to not have a child who is in the right mind? Maybe murder the child after it is born, but whoever wants the abortion is almost always looking out for themselves, and would not attempt it.

[scottnj]

Well you can argue whether its good or bad all day, but regardless people are going to have it done anyway.

If someone wants to get an abortion, they will find any means necessary to get one. If abortion was illegal, that person would go through any means necessary, no matter how unsafe or unsanitary in order to get that abortion.

This is true, there are some people who are just so stubborn that they don't care at all. And they will just abort because they think they can just make a 'mistake'/'accident' disappear. If they don't want to have a child, they need to not have sex. Plain and simple. Yes there are condoms and birth control, but there is still that chance.

I doubt it. Would a person potentially kill himself to not have a child who is in the right mind? Maybe murder the child after it is born, but whoever wants the abortion is almost always looking out for themselves, and would not attempt it.

You'd be surprised, I've heard some wacky stories.


In my opinion, Abortion is very much wrong. And the only way I can even remotely come close to it being ok, is if somebody is raped, and only before the baby becomes a fetus. Because that person had no choice, they likely aren't ready for a baby, and how is a parent supposed to explain to their child that 'I don't know your child, you weren't supposed to be born because I was raped'.

[leafypiggy]

Yes, that is exactly what I mean. However, in a rape case, there is nothing that can really be done, and we see it all the time in the news. But... There is always Adoption. Giving a child away because you are too young to handle one, or you just can't deal with the responsibility is a much better choice then murdering a living thing.

Although I do somewhat believe that *technicly* the *fetus* isn't *alive* directly after conception. It will still mature into a living, breating human being. And that is how God made it.

--Neil

[Ainokea]

I think there is times when it is justified what if the girl was rapped? Now shes pregnant its not her fault. Plus I believe abortions only happen within the first 18 weeks so its technically unable to survive by its self. I think there is some separation from government and religion on this topic.

If abortion is legal why cant stem cell research be? For people who dont know what stem cell research is. Its a zygote (fertilized egg), that has all its genes turned on. The difference between a skin cell and a liver cell is the genes that turned on. So technically with stem cells they maybe be able to grow organs.

[galaxyAbstractor]

What if the woman got raped? If you were a woman, and you got raped and pregnant, would you want to keep the baby? I surely wouldn't want that if I was a woman, But if it is just that they don't want it anymore etc, then no

[adamlinux]

I think that this is only right under certain circumstances such as rape or medical issues that could harm the mother. Other than that though I think its pretty simple, women shouldn't have a "get out of pregnancy card" that they can play every time they get knocked up. I guess if they are bummed about being pregnant they should think about crap like that the next time they have sex. As far as I'm concerned they should be stuck with it and only have the option to put it up for adoption if they cannot take care of the child.