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    Question The Ultimate Goal of Life

    What exactly is the point of life? Why are we here? Where are we going? What should we be doing, if anything at all? I have my opinions, but before i get them out I'd like to see what others have to say.

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    Re: The Ultimate Goal of Life

    What exactly is the point of life?
    If you go for finding the real point of life,i am pretty sure that you may go crazy.Even the science cant really explain your question.

    Why are we here? Where are we going?
    We are here just for celebrating.Plan and save for tomorrow, but party tonight.

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    Re: The Ultimate Goal of Life

    What exactly is the point of life?

    -Err, I can't answer this one.

    Why are we here?

    -Uhh...to make this world a better place to live.

    Where are we going?

    -To war.

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    Re: The Ultimate Goal of Life

    The purpose of life is to not know the purpose of life; you are given free will to determine how you will use this short time on Earth that you have -- for better or for worse. The actions you take and the way you treat the people and world around you will shape history in ways you will never know.

    If we knew the purpose of life, we would no longer have that free will.

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    Re: The Ultimate Goal of Life

    -What exactly is the point of life?
    None, most likely.

    -Why are we here? Where are we going?
    No reason, nor is there any preset direction. Eventually, of course, there is a possibility that the human race will become extinct, by our own hand or otherwise, and another species will come into existence. That will probably repeat several times until the death of our star.

    -What should we be doing, if anything at all?
    Trying to help the human race in whatever way is possible, whether that's by doing scientific research, designing some electronics, educating the next generation of people, being a doctor, or anything that keeps society running along smoothly.

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    Re: The Ultimate Goal of Life

    The purpose of life is to glorify God and enjoy Him forever.

    I know a whole bunch of people here will jump on me for saying that, but go ahead, and I'll defend my statement as best I can.

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    Re: The Ultimate Goal of Life

    Quote Originally Posted by ichwar View Post
    The purpose of life is to glorify God and enjoy Him forever.

    I know a whole bunch of people here will jump on me for saying that, but go ahead, and I'll defend my statement as best I can.
    Well, like you said, people are going to jump on you for saying such, myself for one. Except i'm jumping on board with you. God is our ultimate purpose. He is our creator (thus how we got here), and for that alone he deserves to be eternally worshiped. Beyond that, he has given all of humanity a mind, the ability to think. Everyone is entitled to their individual positions, but I fear that many of you are in for a big surprise when the Day of Judgment comes.

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    Re: The Ultimate Goal of Life

    In reality there is no point to life. By no point I mean no over all goal to reach for. Maybe a set of personal goals but otherwise when we're born we aren't assigned a task that says "strive to this".

    Some may want to believe there is an omnipresent being that oversee our lives and help guide us but I've always considered that not to be the case. People can live there lives and worship whatever they'd like though.

    Anyhow, In many ways the way we came about is due to luck. Billions of years ago the earth had the luck of carrying the building blocks of life such as amino acids to create the first living thing. Those tiny cells living in the primordial pool eventually evolved into sea faring creatures. Eons later some of those creatures took to land and millions of years after that primates and the human species are born. We will continue to evolve too unless we face extinction.

    Now what should we be doing? It depends on who you ask. I personally believe that living my life to the fullest is what I should be doing. Knowing that there is no afterlife makes me appreciate the time I have now more than anything. It's not like we are here for a long time...it's only a brief moment in the grand scheme of things.
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    Re: The Ultimate Goal of Life

    All of us -- me, you, George Bush, my dog Cybele, the turtles that you like -- are all manifestations of Spirit. In reality, there's no me or you or dog or turtle: we're all just forms that Spirit takes. Spirit talking to Spirit, Spirit petting Spirit, Spirit murdering Itself over there in Gaza, right now... why does It do these things? I have no idea. In Hinduism we're taught that this is a some kind of Endless Play; I kinda like that idea.

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    Re: The Ultimate Goal of Life

    Quote Originally Posted by SGLord View Post
    Well, like you said, people are going to jump on you for saying such, myself for one. Except i'm jumping on board with you. God is our ultimate purpose. He is our creator (thus how we got here), and for that alone he deserves to be eternally worshiped. Beyond that, he has given all of humanity a mind, the ability to think. Everyone is entitled to their individual positions, but I fear that many of you are in for a big surprise when the Day of Judgment comes.
    I totally agree. Thanks!:cool:
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentKayos View Post
    Anyhow, In many ways the way we came about is due to luck. Billions of years ago the earth had the luck of carrying the building blocks of life such as amino acids to create the first living thing. Those tiny cells living in the primordial pool eventually evolved into sea faring creatures. Eons later some of those creatures took to land and millions of years after that primates and the human species are born. We will continue to evolve too unless we face extinction.
    First of all, there is no such thing as LUCK.

    Secondly, How on earth did the earth ever carry the 'building blocks of life'? Amino acids need to come from somewhere. They don't just poof in to existence somehow. Of course, that's simple. Amino acids come from protiens. So where did the protiens come from?

    Also, it is a SCIENTIFIC LAW, that life can NOT come from non living things. Just jumbling a bunch of protiens together in the right way will NEVER, not even in a million billion years, create any form of life what so ever.

    And how, pray tell, can a microorganism evolve into a human? Where did it get all the DNA from? It definately didn't make it. The second law of thermo dynamics states that if left alone, things naturally fall into a state of decay. They become worse and worse, not better and better.

    And besides, even IF we evolved from some amino acids, do you know how long it would take? Well, first of all, you need to know how many protiens are in a single amino acid. In the very simplest amino acid there are 22. In the more complex ones, there are HUNDREDS of protiens. For life to exist, all the amino acids are neccessary, but for my purposes, I'll stick with just the simplest amino acid.
    So now, take that amino acid, and figure out how many amino acids you need to be able to make just 1 living cell. For the very simplest cell, 20 amino acids are required. Now, that is just the very simplest cell. The more complex ones, like the ones that make up humans, animals, plants, etc. have hundreds of amino acids.

    But just taking that simplest cell, let's now take a look at:
    'The 5 Steps To Making an Amino Acid!'
    1) Assuming that there are 22 protiens to an amino acid, and 20 amino acids to a cell, that is 440 protiens.
    2) Now, you do know that to make an amino acid, you can't just take any 22 protiens and put them in any order. They need to be 22 specific protiens in a specific order. Any other mix of protiens or any other order in which they link together, would not produce an amino acid.
    3) So, first, you have to get all the right protiens, let's just assume that just the right protiens all happened to be togher, that will make it easier.
    4) Then, all the protiens have to be in the right order. If those protiens all line up, then switch places to create a new order once each second, there are 1124000730000000000000 different possiblities, only one of which is the right one, it will take them 35,641,829,337,900 years. Let me put that into words for you: Thirty-five trillion, sixhundred and forty-one billion, eighthundred and twenty-nine million, threehundred and thirty-seven thousand, ninehundred years. You see then, for one cell to exist, it takes more time than you think that it ever took to create our world with almost an infinite amount of cells.
    5) You also ontop of all that, need to keep nature from running its course, because a protien disintigrates within a minute of its creation if it doesn't bond into an amino acid within that time.

    So, I just don't see how it is possible for us to have evolved from nothing.

    You see, in the end, this all boils down to two points of belief. You believe that either
    1) In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.
    or
    2) In the beginning, there was NOTHING, then it exploded.

    I'm settling for the first of those two choices.
    How about you?
    Last edited by ichwar; 01-12-2009 at 07:53 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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