Would you give up cPanel for better uptime?

[adamparkzer]

cPanel had a large impact on keeping me with x10Hosting, and I'm sure that others feel that way also.

Is there a way to have some servers for free hosting operate without cPanel, and some with? Users who use the features of cPanel would be placed on a collection of servers, and non-cPanel users would be placed on another set of servers. That way, members that don't use cPanel (which probably is more than cPanel users, according to poll results so far) can have better uptime, and cPanel users could also have better uptime because less people are on their cPanel servers.

[Livewire]

I think the problem is the number of accounts, but maybe this will help. I think what really makes X10 great is the number of features and if we eliminate that I think it'd probably hurt us too.

Here's hoping if we do ditch cpanel thatm ost of the features we have still work - File Manager could be cloned with a basic php document, along with a lot of the things in cpanel.

The issue is the sheer numbers, from what I understand. Just gotta find something that doesn't blow up in a gigantic fireball with that many accounts

[leafypiggy]

would we replace it with something like lxadmin or something similar? (Not like on the VPS's, but like a panel (like cPanel)) but more stable and better suited for massive amounts of accounts?

Or, just a suite of stuff to use for management:

- http://www.ajaxplorer.info/demo/ (file manager, login with username: demo , password: demo
- PHPmyAdmin for SQL
- some sort of API for creating/managing FTP, Email, etc.

Most of the other stuff in cPanel (except Fantastico) will be pretty easy to replicate.

Plus, users with enough experience could sell their services and install software for people! It'd stimulate the "x10" economy, as well as, if the user sells it for real money, stimulate the global economy!

[galaxyAbstractor]

Also, keep in mind there is a lot of other hosting panels out there, like
laxadmin/kloxo
virtualmin
ehcp
plesk
etc

Here is a list of them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...system_support

And there is always installing every software (httpd, mysqld, ftpd, mail, bind, etc) manually, and eventually make a custom panel, but that's not likely, due to it's too time consuming I think...

[cosmocrazy]

Does this mean there will be no control panel at all? I can't really imagine web hosting without a control panel...

Maybe you can code a nicer panel like Dreamhost! They hand-coded it.

[Linkz0rs]

Why not use Virtualization on the servers?
It can greatly reduce costs for the servers, and could improve server load.
I would love to help x10 with their server issues... But sadly, I'm not part of staff lol...
I've dealt with virtualization technology quite a lot, and even use it at work, so I know how to manage, and work with it.

I love cPanel, and really wish x10 wouldn't get rid of it...

[Anna]

I'm not on a free sever any more so I won't cast my opinion in the poll, as it would probably not affect me it would be unfair to vote.

I think one of the big questions in regards to ditching cpanel would probably be what it would be replaced with. If I were on a free server that would definatly affect my answer on the poll.

In general I'd say better uptime is preferable though.

[Corey]

I have updated my original post with more information.

[Kayos]

I think the server stability issue is a huge problem. If cpanel is the main culprit then I say we remove it and use something that does not put so much stress on the servers.

[Hauzer]

Hi Corey,

Seeing as cPanel is causing problems, due to the fact that there are many users on the server, we could limit the users a little. Something which no other post in this thread has thought off.

If a person wants cPanel on this host, they just sign up by registering their forum account with their hosting account which instantly is registered with cPanel. I would love the uptime to be higher, though I haven't noticed any problems with it but I would also like to have cPanel at the same time.

All free hosts on x10hosting should have LayeredPanel pre-installed, which is a good alternative. Nothing fancy, just basic really. The user has an option to upgrade to cPanel, but to upgrade you must meet two simple requirements:

* You need a minimum of 100 posts on the forum.
* You must then login to the forums every 2 weeks.

If those requirements are met, then they may have cPanel offered to them from x10hosting. You may choose how many posts are required but 100 is pretty basic.

As adamparkzer has stated, his reason to join to x10hosting was because of the cPanel and in a way, mine was too. Loosing cPanel may also loose a lot more users but will benefit those with 100 posts or higher. This would mean faster servers for those 100+ post users and higher uptime as well.