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    I've just realized that...

    Hey guys, I just realized that the Killing of Seals was active in Canada.
    I did not know about this since im on Philippines, and i never heard anything about it. But until then my friend posted an article on a social networking site.

    Anways, i hope the Government Officials would do something to stop this.

    I've also created an article on my blog, see it here.
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    Re: I've just realized that...

    unfortunately, many animal species are targeted for various purposes by humans.
    but, getting people to see what is going on and realizing how bad it is, is the first step toward change.

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    Re: I've just realized that...

    Quote Originally Posted by jmcs23 View Post
    unfortunately, many animal species are targeted for various purposes by humans.
    but, getting people to see what is going on and realizing how bad it is, is the first step toward change.
    I agree.

    There is an online petition to stop this nonsense hunt, and the first step to stop it is taking action:

    http://www.stopthesealhunt.com/sitea...CIqE&b=2580449
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    Unfortunately, you may find animal abuse a lot closer to home than you realise.

    Modern farming techniques often involve the suffering of animals in their breeding & throughout their lives. The cases which are often given as examples include battery farmed animals (chickens etc), veal & foie gras etc, but there are many other examples less obvious.

    Animals are bred to be "efficient" for humans purposes, but actually so distorted from their natural form that they couldn't survive in the wild. Chickens & other animals are force-grown at such an alarming rate (prior to being killed very early in their miserable lives, but still prematurely fully grown) so that their bone are weak & fragile. People may be surprised to learn that even cows, who they thought have a nice life in the fields, are also the victim of our cruelty. Here's a quote from another site ;

    "Today's mother cows are treated like milk machines—confined to dirty concrete stalls for months at a time, their udders are so swollen that they sometimes drag on the ground. Cows give milk for the same reasons humans do—for their babies. To keep milk production high, cows are kept pregnant, and their calves are taken away at one to two days and bartered for a few pounds. They are no more than a waste by-product of the industry. The milk nature meant for them ends up on our supermarket shelves instead.

    Because cows are re-impregnated while still making milk from the pregnancy that has just ended, they often become seriously run-down and emaciated. Often, their back and hip bones can be seen starkly protruding. When they are no longer profitable milk machines, the spent cows are 'culled'. Many will be exhausted and leaking milk through distended udders by the time they are trucked out to the slaughterhouse."


    If you must eat meat, please show compassion & look into what you are buying, where it came from & what sort of life the animal had to endure for you.


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    Check with the families who's survival depends on the seal hunt (or any other hunt) and I don't think they will agree that it is "nonsense"
    It is very easy for outsiders to jump on the bandwagon of the animal rights movment without having first hand knowledge of what they speak.
    I do agree that in the past some of the "hunting" practices were not the best but that doesn't mean that the hunt (which keeps the seal population under control) is all bad. People see a cute seal pup and get all worked up that they may be killed in limited numbers just as cute "lambs", "piglets", ducks, etc. etc. are... (what is the favorite meat of choice in the Philippines) take a look at what you eat and if you are pure enough that you can say that you do not depend on the slaughtering of any living thing for survival then you may have a small right to complain about something that you only know of by hear say.
    check this out:
    http://www.hsus.org/about_us/humane_..._campaign.html
    Perhaps you should start blogging about that instead of seals!!
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    Re: I've just realized that...

    Please save the seals.

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    Re: I've just realized that...

    who cears about this ugly animal

    joke

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    Re: I've just realized that...

    Quote Originally Posted by digitalimages View Post
    Check with the families who's survival depends on the seal hunt (or any other hunt) and I don't think they will agree that it is "nonsense"
    It is very easy for outsiders to jump on the bandwagon of the animal rights movment without having first hand knowledge of what they speak.
    I do agree that in the past some of the "hunting" practices were not the best but that doesn't mean that the hunt (which keeps the seal population under control) is all bad. People see a cute seal pup and get all worked up that they may be killed in limited numbers just as cute "lambs", "piglets", ducks, etc. etc. are... (what is the favorite meat of choice in the Philippines) take a look at what you eat and if you are pure enough that you can say that you do not depend on the slaughtering of any living thing for survival then you may have a small right to complain about something that you only know of by hear say.
    check this out:
    http://www.hsus.org/about_us/humane_..._campaign.html
    Perhaps you should start blogging about that instead of seals!!
    Your argument sounds reasonable, until you look at the situation in Africa where whole family groups of gorillas or chimpanzees are slaughtered, not to feed a human family, but to sell the meat in the markets, or the slaughter of the orangutan in Borneo and Sumatra so we can have products which contain palm oil. The orphans of these groups of great apes being left to die, or caged as a family pet.

    I have no problem with indeginous people killing to survive, but killing for profit or personal gain or to settle some multi national corporations greed is wrong and ever shall be. Unfortunately many of these large corporations justify themselves by saying that they are giving work to the natives, when in fact they are destroying the natives lifestyle too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bazranz View Post
    Your argument sounds reasonable, until you look at the situation in Africa where whole family groups of gorillas or chimpanzees are slaughtered, not to feed a human family, but to sell the meat in the markets, or the slaughter of the orangutan in Borneo and Sumatra so we can have products which contain palm oil. The orphans of these groups of great apes being left to die, or caged as a family pet.

    I have no problem with indeginous people killing to survive, but killing for profit or personal gain or to settle some multi national corporations greed is wrong and ever shall be. Unfortunately many of these large corporations justify themselves by saying that they are giving work to the natives, when in fact they are destroying the natives lifestyle too.

    I know that this can be a very 'emotional' subject just like religion.
    I do agree with you on the some of the things that go on in Africa but Africa isn't the only place and the "apes"are not the only species that get targeted (example bears for their gall bladders). However the seal hunt can not be compared to any of these activities. The seal hunt, (i.e. the hunting of seal pups), has been going on for centuries and still the seal population continues to multiply. Just as in "fishing" there are quotas, without this culling of the seal herd, seals would multiply to numbers that would ultimately threaten their survival as they depend on fish, (which unfortunately have been over fished [namely cod] in this area) and are in very limited numbers and the higher the concentrations of any animal spices the greater chance for major outbreaks of disease in that population and this would not only affect the pups but the breeding herd as well.
    I am not involved in the seal hunt, as I live over a thousand miles inland of the east coast, but I am a Canadian and I very much object to people condeming my country and protesting something that they have not seen first hand or something that they have no knowledge of other than what some animal rights group tries to force upon everyone. What got me going was the original poster's, (who lives in the Philippines), condemnation of something that they know nothing of when their own country has it's own issues concerning animal rights. People who live in glass houses should not throw stones!!
    I was raised on a farm and farmed for most of my adult life and our animals were always looked after, often before we looked after our own needs. When you depend on animals for your livelihood you learn very quickly that the better you treat them the better they treat you. I do acknowledge that today there are very large "factory" farms that treat animals only as an object to make money with and have very little concern for what their practises do to the animal.
    Now I am going to carefully climb down from my soapbox and relax....at my age I can't take a lot of this excitement!!

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    Re: I've just realized that...

    digitalimages - Some fair & balanced points.

    Rest assured, no-one as far as I could see was condemning your whole country - just those particular actions were coming under criticism.

    Whilst I would agree that the culling is no different to many other similar methods that mankind has for "controlling" animals, it doesn't make it acceptable or even logical. The seal population would find its own natural balance (between ever-increasing numbers, & the food resources which could support that population) without man's intervention - their survival wouldn't be threatened. As with all animal & plant populations in nature, an equilibrium is always eventually reached. Your reference to disease control is a red-herring - again, disease would play its part in maintaining the population balance as with any other animal population.

    As you point out, over-fishing is the real problem. It is likely that which is the real issue behind the culling. Until we learn not to over-fish, & share our resources with other animals on this planet, I suspect this problem will continue. Unfortunately, mankind seems incapable of learning this fact though, & historically has always harvested plants, animals, minerals etc to the point at which irreparable damage has been done - before we have bothered to take notice. Pollution & global warming being the most recent (& potentially most severe) case in point.


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