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    where to start with web design

    Hey everyone, I made an x10hosting free account to learn about web hosting and put my work on the web. What I want to know is: where to start. I know some html, some java, and that is about it. Anyone have a good tutorial? Any key things to tell beginners like "what php is, or what the best place to learn javascript is. Feel free to post it here.

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    Re: where to start with web design

    The best beginning tutorials are over at http://www.w3schools.com. They are where i started out and they give you great examples, and you can also try them out on their site. They teach the basics of everything, PHP, (X)HTML, Javascript, CSS, SQL, and AJAX. This is probably the best place for beginners, and once you get the basics you can go to php.net it you want to learn even more, but it is the official reference, so it is a little bit more confusing.
    I hope i helped!

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    Smile Re: where to start with web design

    already been to w3shcools, it's where I learned most of my HTML. Checking net.tutsplus right now. Thnx!!!

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    Re: where to start with web design

    Messing about with code and testing what you can do is the best way of progressing. Learn by doing tutorials that you read and you will find that you will remember the skills and techniques far more easily.

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    I have some tutorials about PHP, HTML, and a little CSS. You can check them out here: http://kallieashley.pcriot.com . Another one is http://heartdrops.org

    Good luck! :]

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    Re: where to start with web design

    W3Schools is outdated, inaccurate and incomplete. For example:
    • The PHP+MySQL tutorial is based on the twice-supplanted mysql driver and don't even mention SQL injection.
    • The page on JS variables says that declaring a variable with var is the same as assigning to an undeclared variable (it's not; the former creates a local variable, the latter a global).
    • The HTML tutorials use presentational elements. No mention of semantic elements is even made.

    For better resources, read "Want to learn to program...." thread and the various questions on SO related to learning php and javascript tutorials, especially "PHP tutorial that is security-, accuracy- and maintainability-conscious?" Don't neglect database design.

    Also, this forum is only for posting tutorials. The programming help forum is the best place for this issue.
    Last edited by misson; 05-07-2010 at 04:20 PM.
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    Some really good read me's here: http://www.thesitewizard.com/php/index.shtml

    If you are used to looking at code like java & html sometimes its a good idea to upload some free scripts to your site, and mess about with the code / html content as it will give you some practical views on how things work. I would also always recommend keeping copies of the original files incase you fatally break the script and so you can re-upload and try again.

    Couple of Coding 'Rules' (loosely) That will make learning easier::
    1: K,I,S,S - "Keep It Simple Stupid"... my college professor taught me that one, not calling you stupid of course but if things are too complex it can be a headache so keep things simple is always a good idea.

    2: Fully Comment your code! in php you can do a // and add some text to remind you later whats doing what. Each lang has is own version and its always advised especially if its something new you are trying to figure out.

    3: And remember copy & paste is a programmers best friend if you write something that works, don't be afraid to reuse it else where with changes as needed.

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    Re: where to start with web design

    Quote Originally Posted by geekiwan View Post
    3: And remember copy & paste is a programmers best friend if you write something that works, don't be afraid to reuse it else where with changes as needed.
    Copy & paste may seem like your friend, but it says the most horrible things about you behind your back; it's an anti-pattern. You should use proper abstractions, writing functions, classes, modules and libraries to reuse code.
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