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If they gave free ssl with cpanel, but not with DirectAdmin. At least my certificate does not work for me, and I have contacted them and they say that I am not a premium and cannot support me, when they have caused the problem.
They did on xo2 where they left AutoSSL running so it had the cPanel certs being issues.
 

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if you need free ssl you can try this,
https://www.sslforfree.com/
if you use it you need to renew it every 3 months though.
but it does work i use it on my paid server.
 

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Keyword: “paid”
you didnt read the post right, i said i use the free ssl on a paid server.
using free ssl does not mean you have to have a paid website to use it.
anyone can use it for free.
 

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you didnt read the post right, i said i use the free ssl on a paid server.
using free ssl does not mean you have to have a paid website to use it.
anyone can use it for free.
You actually misread my post. Keyword is “paid server” not a free one. That was what I said in my earlier post
 

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You actually misread my post. Keyword is “paid server” not a free one. That was what I said in my earlier post
there is no reason why you can not use it on a free website.
(unless you dont know how to set it up)

anyway it was just a suggestion, i didnt post it for a debate
 

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there is no reason why you can not use it on a free website.
(unless you dont know how to set it up)
No. Not supposed to be allowed on free accounts. It’s actually disabled via DirectAdmin on free accounts.
 

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No. Not supposed to be allowed on free accounts. It’s actually disabled via DirectAdmin on free accounts.
i dont know where you heard it wasnt allowed to use on free accounts.
but that is not true. you can use free ssl on any website with a file manager.
there is multiple ways to install ssl. the website has many tutorials on that.
 

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i dont know where you heard it wasnt allowed to use on free accounts.
but that is not true. you can use free ssl on any website with a file manager.
there is multiple ways to install ssl. the website has many tutorials on that.
That came from x10 Support themselves when I asked them directly. SSL for the domains themselves is not included on free hosting accounts. The SSL Settings in DirectAdmin are set to use the actual server cert only and nothing else. It’s fully disabled for free hosting accounts. The only alternate way is by using Cloudflare to issue the SSL from accessing free accounts via Cloudflare Edge Servers, even at that needs the proper setting so it doesn’t crash and burn.

I also notice you said you’re a paid account. If I’m going by what the announcement is saying, shouldn’t you still have cPanel?
 
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Officially, SSL isn't supported on free hosting; I'm aware of some "tricks" involving CloudFlare to enable it, but I've not personally used them or have tried them to know how to properly set it up or maintain it.

This staff member also highlights why SSH is disabled on free hosting as well.
 

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that still does not mean free ssl IS NOT ALLOWED as you said.
just means it was not supported at that time when livewire made
that post. (it was an old post before directadmin)

if you want to get technical show me where it says its not allowed
in the terms and usage agreement for x10hosting... it dont.

I also notice you said you’re a paid account. If I’m going by what the announcement is saying, shouldn’t you still have cPanel?
i did NOT say i was a paid account, I only said i had a paid account.
my paid account is not with x10hosting.
 

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But i should correct myself and say the free ssl should work on x10 hosting.
BUT i cannot confirm it yet as im still waiting for the migration on x05
servers. so i cant do much until i get into directadmin and see for myself.
 

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that still does not mean free ssl IS NOT ALLOWED as you said.
just means it was not supported at that time when livewire made
that post. (it was an old post before directadmin)

if you want to get technical show me where it says its not allowed
in the terms and usage agreement for x10hosting... it dont.


i did NOT say i was a paid account, I only said i had a paid account.
my paid account is not with x10hosting.
Just wanted to clarify that last part. TOS isn’t going to state what is or isn’t included in the free accounts, it’s saying here are the rules, you break them, we kick you off, such as hacking, circumvention, etc. The last time I directly emailed about it was a year ago, and they said no.

SSL for free will still work in the form of you being able to get the cert downloaded, but sadly the only steps publicly known is through DA SSL Manager which x10 recently ensured it was disabled by them across all servers, when it was initially enabled.
 

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Jeez this is all too complicated for me - can we just get web pages and simple PHP served again? I'm sad. FC
 

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using the free ssl, you can download the files from them,
then upload them to your website, like you do any other file,
then you can manually verify your website domain name.
dont try to auto-detect or anything, do it manually.

but trying to use directadmin to update them wont work,
you have to do the same process each time when you renew it.
 

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@ fcsecret
im sure many would like things to get fixed and working again.
ill just say you guys are lucky to have been migrated already.
im still waiting for them to do x05...then ill probably have the same
issues to deal with. (unless they have it fixed by the time they do x05)
the waiting is a pain in the a$$. (3 weeks now and counting)
 

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I know before with cPanel the
@ fcsecret
im sure many would like things to get fixed and working again.
ill just say you guys are lucky to have been migrated already.
im still waiting for them to do x05...then ill probably have the same
issues to deal with. (unless they have it fixed by the time they do x05)

I wouldn’t be surprised if they temporarily halted migrations to fix these issues so future migrations wouldn’t show these issues.
 

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@ mycoo368
I wouldn’t be surprised if they temporarily halted migrations to fix these issues so future migrations wouldn’t show these issues.
I thought of that too, as 3 weeks to do migrations is crazy.
when Corey figured on a week to do them.
 

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This thread has deviated from the original post about the "Apache is functioning normally" message people are getting instead of their websites I sincerely need an answer or a fix for that.

so let me answer the debates going on here first things first
@spacresx SSL is not available on free accounts through any method that involves the server.

@mycoo368 the only way to get legitimate HTTPS and thus SSL through having your website proxied though Cloudflare servers. since the edge servers for Cloudflare can be used to serve your website with a valid SSL certificate the connection is done through HTTPS. however do note that since we do not have an SSL certificate on the origin server in our case x10Hosting servers. the connection from Ckoudflare's edge servers to the origin server is not secured
 

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This thread has deviated from the original post about the "Apache is functioning normally" message people are getting instead of their websites I sincerely need an answer or a fix for that.

so let me answer the debates going on here first things first
@spacresx SSL is not available on free accounts through any method that involves the server.

@mycoo368 the only way to get legitimate HTTPS and thus SSL through having your website proxied though Cloudflare servers. since the edge servers for Cloudflare can be used to serve your website with a valid SSL certificate the connection is done through HTTPS. however do note that since we do not have an SSL certificate on the origin server in our case x10Hosting servers. the connection from Ckoudflare's edge servers to the origin server is not secured
Already knew that. I thought it was slightly secured, still not as secure as having a full SSL, through Railgun when they were doing that.

Also, wanted to add that some x10 servers block the bots used by SSL For Free.
 
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